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非洲骗术最新最真例子

虽然有关非洲骗术的贴子很多。但我还是忍不住要上来发一个热气腾腾的新骗子。

这几天倒霉。遇到非洲骗子。当然,这个非洲骗子遇到我,也算是他这几天最倒霉的事情了。

顺便插叙一下:免费在B2B注册公司与产品之后,定单没做成一个。非洲骗子倒是遇到了四个。
我决无有意贬B2B的意思,以下数据可以做证:
(1)国内Alibaba:2007-7-25日注册,贸易通连续在线的情况下。至今无定单。损失了无数小时的贸易通聊天时间。收到N多“群发” 祝贺。
(2)busytrade:2007-6-18注册。至今连垃圾邮件都没来一封!(注册成功之后来了一封“welcome to busytrade"的邮件除外)
(3)Ecplaza:2007-8-14注册。至今收到一封来是非洲的邮件(什么都没开始谈就开始说payment term了。可见贫困程度):


Dear

We have gone through your advertisement and we have
interested on your products.

We would like to inform your house about our term of
payment as follows:

Our term of payment with your firm is 100%
international bank cheque to be issue in your favor
through affiliated oversea bank by t/t method in
which you will received your payment into your bank
account before you make the shipment.

Kindly confirm your acceptance ...


当然。我还是认真的回复了他的。只是他听说我要收样品费之后就没有声音了。
(4)EC21:2007-7-14日注册。目前收到4个询盘。1个加拿大,1个Egypt,1个HK,1个UK,1个west africa.
这个Africa的”客户“来了这么一封邮件:
Dear Sir/ma,,,

Is much pleasure in meeting you and your company,,
Any way am the general director of  ELECTRONICS ACCESSORY LIMITED
. Am Mr.SALIF ABOUDOU KADER  iny by name,,If you don't mind we will like to introduce little about our company,,,

Company Introduction,,,

We are ELOECTRONICS ACCESSORY  LIMITED   ,located at west africa country Called ivoiry coast (côte d'ivoire   zipecode 225) Any way our company have been importing of good for the past 19 years now and we import all kinds electrical equipment such charge mobile phone   and batterie mobile phone and mobile phone cell   only in our company,we have four quarters in Africa and Eroupe ,,,

We Import about 90.000pcs of this products  every month in our company but we always import from europe and Asia and America source i mean the world,,,

Well we are well organise with 800 staffs and 100 labourers in the Ware house,,
We also our appliances world wide  like paying in differents method like T/T,Wire transfer And Lc payment or Bank to bank transfer,,,

Our company pay for order placement as deposite for finishing the order then we pay completely,,anyway moreover it is our inquirement fadirations of pleasurant ability that lead us to Contact your company Today,,Before we order from Singapore only in Asia source But unfortunately the Company that supplies us this Good has folded up and can not be functioning anymore that brought us to your company i hope we will build a good business relationship for long spam in future,,,

Company Capabilty Of Goods,,,
All goods we order is by Air Cargo becos our company hav negociated with our Federal Goverment and Customs  for our Goods as special Goods in the Country,,

Any way not so Bad we will like to know you and your company and your rules but i want you to understand that if you can obey our company rules as well we will also obey your company rules and please we hate Fraud in this business becos our company is well registered with the Federal Government in Both Abroad and In our Country, So therefore we will like to order from your company now about 40.000pcs of your company into our company in ivoiry coast  (côte d'ivoire ) so we will pay your company the deposite of our order if your company can sign this below agreement with our company successfully well,,,,,

Agreement Terms

1... We will pay you to your company By T/T ,LC,Wire Transfer Or any method of payment you want as our deposite first for our order,,,

2... We will like to Preview at least 10 models of your products  becos we will order for 90.000pcs and when we confirm much we can increase it in our trial order by 150.000pcs ,Our reason for the free samples is that this is our First co-peration with your company if we preview the products and test it and know the High Quality of it,we will Successfully Agree with your company to place our order from you,,,,But Mind you for the Sample It must be free becos is for preview to our local market in Abroad and to Our local market here in EUROPE and all our csutomers in Meeeting Only ,,,

Samples agreement and policy /Rules

3. For the samples please Note that you are going to bear the shippment cost of the samples,while we Bear the Custom duty over here becos over here in our country we pay for the custom duty of this products becos they called as Dangerouse Goods but becos we are registered company and have connection with the Federal Goverment so we Bear the Custom Duty over here and it cost a lot about 350 Dollars for 10 pcs at the custom service that is what we pay to custom for 3-4 pcs ,i hope you will understand please,,so for your product i just hope you can accpet to bear the shippment by TNT express becos that is the most cheapless Express Service in the world and also EMS express service that is the express service we do use for the samples,,,,,,so i will like you to understand our condidtion and rules and policy becos without listing out our company policy it will be very hard for you to co-operate with us,,

4.. for the Shippment we use our company TNT express, for the samples but for the Order we use Air cargo for it,,,So if you agree to the free sample we will send you the address where the samples are to be posted to and our company name,,,
5... Please For the Samples you must make sure it be the best becos our customer will preview it and test it,so please we begg you that the samples must be the best OK,,if you agree to send us the samples then will order our customers from 15 part of africa to Booked for the air plane ticket and come to company so that they can preview the samples and go back there countries until the arriver of the Maximuim Order ok,,,,,


Company Policy

We will Agree to all part of your company policy,and your rules are accepted to us and we must obey to it if you can also obey to our little rules Above,,anyway we will like to also welcome your rules and payment method and price,but mind you without the samples there is no way we can move further OK,,

Appreciation

Thanks for  Reading and understanding our iterms ,we hope to hear a positive reply your company council asap,,,

Thanks
Best Regard
From Mr.Salif

[color=Blue](5)ECVV:2007-6-26注册。至今垃圾邮件都没收到一封。
(6)Globalsource。刚刚接受试用二个月。刚刚上传完产品。下回来告诉大家效果。
(7)tradekey: 2007-8-22注册。目前收到两个询盘。一个UK,一个Ukriane

[ 本帖最后由 changbobbs 于 2008-9-25 21:11 编辑 ]

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(8)Made-in-Chnia: 2007-1-25注册。至今收到10个询盘
1个Bahamas,1个canada,1个chile,1个Egype,1个Ghana,1个Mexico,1个Poland,1个Roman,1个Ukraine,1个Viet Nam.
今天的主角是其中的那个Ghana的客户。是新鲜如炉的骗子。

对于免费注册的B2B总结如下:
(1)客户询价是一定有的。有效客户可能机率是1%0。但是国内大部分业务都会会这1%0的机率而注册。多么无耐啊。
(2)骗子那是相当的多。在这里提醒大家对来自South/West africa,Ghana。。。的客户提高一下警惕。

下面请这两天遇到的加纳骗子:
2007-10-13日收到made-in-china的通知,有新询盘。我就跑过去看内容了:
Dear Sir/Madam,

My name is Martin Dears, and am the XX Equipment Co. We sell calculators and we are one of the Leading calculators company in Ghana, we got an award for the best educational supplies last year, actually, i will like to order some scientific calculators to my company in Ghana, i will like the one that contains the following:

Cos
Tan
Sin

and much more.. i will like to order 2000 pcs of them and also, i will like to know your method of payment, i will appreciate it if you reply me back via my email at... its XX@yahoo.com .. waiting for your email.. Thanks and have a great time..

Sincerely,
XX
三个重要骗子特征都显示出来了(1)yaoo.com的邮箱(2)第一封邮件就问payment term(3)第封邮件就有索样的倾向!
这下子要提高警惕了。由于询盘中出现在定单量2000个,对我还是有吸引力的。所以我就马上回复了。将科学计算器的报价全部发给他,并附上了图片。(COS,TAN,SIN就科学计算器的功能)。并告诉他我们的payment term 是:
30%deposit the balance T/T after inspection before delivery.
30%deposit the balance T/T aganst B/L copy
Irrevocable L/C at sight when order ammount is up to USD20000.0

他次日回复邮件索样:

Dear Miss Yong,
Thanks for the mail, i really appreciate it, well i was waiting for your email. anyway.. thanks for all those information,however i went through your web, and i found out that, the following will be better for my company:

96 6605   
97 6606   
98 6608

So, i will like to know what payment method do you accept, and where i can make the payment to, so after payment, arrangement will be made for the calculators to be sent to my company, thanks and reply me back asap for fast business transaction...


单单看这封邮件,“看上去”没有什么不对劲。(也不能对非洲人持太多偏见撒,目的是定单)
所以我就让他提供一下地址信息及帐号以便寄样:
Dear Mr Martin

Thanks for your last email!
REF.PRICE
I hereby list the samples you need as below:
ITEM                 PRICE
6605 black         USDXX/PC
6606                 USDXX/PC
6608                 USDXX/PC
based on:
1) MOQ: 5000PCS
2) FOB shenzhen
3) one color one position logo free of charge. if more, USD0.01/color/place
4) each packed into our polybag and normal white box.
Price validity: one month (since 2007-10-16)

REF. SAMPLES
YES, we can offer free sample for item YC-6605, YC-6606, YC-6608. however, you will need to bear the freight charge. please let me know your company information and internatial express account:

Company name:
address:
Post code:
TEL:
contact person:
Fedex/DHL/UPS account:

We will prepare the samples for you right after your feedback!
Sincerely
Diana Yao <International dept.>
...............................................
YONG CHANG ELECTRONIC CO., LTD
TEL (DIR): 0086-
MOBILE: 0086-
FAX: 0086-
EMAIL: Diana@
WEBSITE: http://www.yongchang-elec.com   
.............................................................................................


客户回复了:


Yong,
Thanks for the corresponding, i really appreciate, anyway,here is the information below for you to be able to send the samples to my company by ups:
contact person: Ibrahim Umar
address: 14 Crescent Ave
Post code: 00233
TEL: +233 XX
UPS account: XXX
When you send the samples, get back with me with the tracking number or scan and send the receipt throught my email, or you can fax me.. Thanks and am waiting for your email...

大家可以看到,非洲骗子客户的一个共性那就是:不注意细节。
(1)我的每封邮件当中都写的很清楚我是:Diana Yao 但是他用我公司名:Yong Chang Electronic Co.,ltd的第一字Yong来称呼我。一直都是这样。
(2)几乎从来没有后缀公司地址电话邮件的邮件签名。有时甚至最后连best reagards,XXX都没有。

好,既然有帐号。那心稍微放宽一点了。毕竟是一有公司了。
但仔细看了看。不对!
(1)POSE CODE怎么与电话前缀一样撒,
(1)另外,地址好像很短来着,最后也不是以国家结尾,
(3)联系人也不是客户本人Mr Martin。
肯定要发邮件问清楚客户。今早我打电话问咨询UPS。有关国际样品快递诈骗的案例。
她很详细地举例介绍流程:
有些非洲员工在辞职后,例用原公司的快递帐号向国外供应商索样。这个诈骗最明显的特征就是地址,联系人与帐号不相符。她建议最好的办法是让客户把快递费打款到我们帐号。然后再预付寄样。

我觉得她说的不无道理。但我担心客户有可能不会先打款。因为如果有可能也担心我们的信用。
所以无论如何我想先忽悠这位Mr Martin一下。

让他提供准确的公司名,地址,PC,联系人,电话。到时侯我打个电话过去say hi。如果这些信息与帐号完全相符的话,就要排除诈骗的可能。(因为每个账号都对应相应的公司信息)。如果按服务人员所说。属员工离职盗用原公司帐号的情况的话。我谅他也不会告诉我那个帐号下的准确信息。那样样品就是寄给那家公司而不是他了。

不管怎样,由于第一次提供的资料十分可疑。暂定为骗子。
我先与他再磨磨。确定是骗子的时侯再叙。当然,如果这个”骗子“最后真的下单了。那我也会开贴庆祝的。


感谢看完长贴的同志!
看完觉得有用就要顶一下撒!


[ 本帖最后由 Dianarainy 于 2007-10-19 11:25 编辑 ]

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米人做沙发我自己做。

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你还真有这么多时间跟骗子忽悠。





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回复 #4 Tobey118 的帖子

是啊。闲的时侯才这样做。
不忽悠一下难解我心头之恨。

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哎,我被尼日利亚的黑鬼忽悠了。几点特征与楼主说的80%是一样的,诸如用yahoo邮箱等等。他说接到TNT的电话,我们的包裹被扣在EFCC手上,要他付USD200才可以拿到(运费我们已经付给TNT了),他先付了USD100,剩下的USD100,让我西联汇款给他,好提出包裹看样品。





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QUOTE:
原帖由 ntmelody 于 2007-10-19 22:47 发表
哎,我被尼日利亚的黑鬼忽悠了。几点特征与楼主说的80%是一样的,诸如用yahoo邮箱等等。他说接到TNT的电话,我们的包裹被扣在EFCC手上,要他付USD200才可以拿到(运费我们已经付给TNT了),他先付了USD100,剩下 ...

这是我最不想看到的结果。

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今天早上就收到一封加纳的客人,索求公司的产品目录,他本人在中国,要我直接用DHL寄给在加纳的公司主管,给了我一个地址。我打电话给他本人,索要DHL帐号,要做到付,那个破英语,听得我一头雾水,只知道一个大概, 说他没有DHL帐号云云。看了楼主的帖子,特地去注意了下,也是yahoo的邮箱,不知道这个是不是骗子,还有跟下去的必要吗?开发客户这么久,一点成就感都没有。

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QUOTE:
原帖由 opening 于 2007-10-24 12:06 发表
今天早上就收到一封加纳的客人,索求公司的产品目录,他本人在中国,要我直接用DHL寄给在加纳的公司主管,给了我一个地址。我打电话给他本人,索要DHL帐号,要做到付,那个破英语,听得我一头雾水,只知道一个大 ...

yahoo的邮箱。。。  寄样前核对一下POST CODE与地址。DHL的客服人员会提供核对帐号与地址是否相符的服务。

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