PERFORMANCE BOND (PB)
履约保证金

1        AFTER BUYER AND SELLER SIGNED THE CONTRACT, THE SELLER’S BANK ISSUE A NON OPERATIVE PERFORMANCE BOND (PB) REPRESENTING THE FIRST SHIPMENT OF 50,000 TONS TO BUYER.
THE PERFORMANCE BONDS IN AMOUNT OF 5%　US$000.000 SHALL BE AUTOMATICALLY OPERATIVE WHEN THE BUYER HAS ISSUED THE L/C AS THE FOLLOW-UP OF THE S/P CONTRACT。
买卖双方签约后，卖方银行先发出首批50,000公吨金额的5%暂不生效履约保证金到买方银行。
为了完成船运,卖方开出000,000美元之未可执行的履约保函给买方银行.依据买卖合同, 买方开出信用证后, 履约保函自动生效。
2         THE FORMAT OF THE PERFORMANCE BOND SHALL BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LATEST UCP THE LATEST VERSION (UNIFORM CUSTOMS AND PRACTICE FOR DOCUMENTARY CREDITS, 1999 REVISION, ICC PUBLICATION NO. THE LATEST VERSION) AS PER “ANNEX C”.
履约保证金的形式应符合最新修改的UCP和2000的1999年见索既付版本（见”附件C”）。

3        IN THE EVENT OF NON-PERFORMANCE BY THE SELLER, THE SELLER’S PB WILL BE CALLED UP BY THE BUYER. IF THE BUYER AGREE TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT GO ON, THE SELLER WILL INSTRUCT HIS BANK TO ISSUE A NEW PB WITHIN A PERIOD OF 48 (FORTY-EIGHT) HOURS HAVING THE SAME TENOR AS THE PREVIOUS ONE. SHOULD THIS BE THE CASE, ALL FUTURE PAYMENTS DUE BY THE BUYER WILL BE SUSPENDED UNTIL SUCH A TIME THAT THE NEW PB HAS BEEN PLACED.
如果卖方没有履行合同, 卖方的履约保证金将被买方收取， 如买方同意继续执行合同, 卖方在48小时内, 通知其银行开出一份同原先一样的履约保证金。在这种情况下, 买方对卖方的一切付款将暂时中止直到新的履约保证金开始生效。


违约
1        SHOULD EITHER PARTY FAIL TO COMPLY WITH ANY OF THEIR OBLIGATIONS TO THE OTHER PARTY RELATED TO THE CONTRACT, THEN THE SUFFERING PARTY WILL HAVE THE OPTION TO DECLARE NON-PERFORMANCE AGAINST THE DEFAULTING PARTY.
如果一方没有按合同对另一方履行义务，另一方有权对违约方提出明示。
2        FAILURE BY EITHER PARTY TO TAKE AGAINST THE OTHER, IN CASE OF THE OTHER PARTY’S NON-COMPLIANCE WITH OBLIGATION OR CONDITIONS SET FOURTH WITH THIS CONTRACT, SHALL NOT OF THE SAME OR OTHER OBLIGATIONS OR CONDITIONS.
如果一方对另一方违约，另一方也没有按照合同条款和义务进行，也同样被视为违约。

3    SELLER WILL ISSUE A PERFORMANCE BOND TO BUYER. THE PB WILL BE CALLED UP AND THE CONTRACT WILL BE CANCELLED BY THE BUYER IF THE SELLER HAS FAILED TO PROVIDE POP OR DULY MADE COPIES OF THE SHIPPING DOCUMENTS (INCLUDING B/L, COMMERCIAL INVOICE, CERTIFICATE OF ORIGIN, CERTIFICATE OF QUANLITI & QUANTITY INSPECTION ISSUED BY SGS), OR NO DELIVERY IS MADE WITHIN THE SPECIFIED TIME AS PER THE CONTRACT FOR WHATEVER REASONS, EXCEPT THE FORCE MAJEURE EVENT.
卖方银行将出具的暂不生效履约保函到买方银行，如果卖方不能按合同规定时间提供POP档或装船档（海运提单、商业发票、产地证、装载港SGS质量和数量检验证明）副本、或不能按规定时间交货，不论什么原因（除不可抗力外），买方有权没收卖方履约的保证金，并取消该合同。


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贴子终于清静了，发点大家感兴趣的东西，仅供参考。

:) :) 收到的短信和回复的短信,很有意思,帖上来共享:

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来函  Bizman.  2008-4-29 06:26 PM  [/color]

清除了，怎么样？服也不服？如果你们想跟我们决赛的话，遗憾的是，你预赛都进不了，怎么办？ 回复 - 转发 - 标记未读 - 下载 - 删除 - 关闭


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Re: 来函  Bizman.  2008-4-30 07:54 AM
  [/color] ;P ;P  连开证手续费都不知道,还敢出来跟人叫板?!
不管你是"鼻子慢"或者是"鼻子闻"(想想都是啥东西用鼻子闻? ;P ;P ),也不管你是不是哪个BRUCE,总之:别不懂装懂!
不要得意,我回把你的短信贴上去的!
原始短消息: 来函
QUOTE:
清除了，怎么样？服也不服？如果你们想跟我们决赛的话，遗憾的是，你预赛都进不了，怎么办？

别的都可以删除,这个网址一定要联上来:

[size=6]这年头假的东西坑人不浅,居然还有人弄份假PB招摇撞骗,希望更多福友擦亮眼睛,不要轻易上当:[/size]
[url]http://bbs.fobshanghai.com/thread-591887-1-54.html[/url]

别人说PB是"履约保证金(见22楼以及42楼)"被"鼻子慢"先生穷追猛打,你的脸很大;P ;P ;P ?
不怕再对准你开火?!
[quote]原帖由 [i]xxyun2000[/i] 于 2008-4-29 10:33 PM 发表 [url=http://bbs.fobshanghai.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=14132151&ptid=1095782][img]http://bbs.fobshanghai.com/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
[u]PERFORMANCE BOND (PB)
履约保证金[/u]1        AFTER BUYER AND SELLER SIGNED THE CONTRACT, THE SELLER’S BANK ISSUE A NON OPERATIVE PERFORMANCE BOND (PB) REPRESENTING THE FIRST SHIPMENT OF 50,000 TONS TO ... [/quote]

[[i] 本帖最后由 globaltrade 于 2008-4-30 08:21 编辑 [/i]]

大家有话好说啊，和为贵！


以我与买家、卖家实际接触的经验理解：

1 在买家、卖家、及代理人之间交流的时候，大家所谈的PB是卖家为了让买家放心而对交易作的一种资金保证。如果卖家不接受PB，生意都没有必要往下谈了。所以这种情况下把PB理解为卖家违约即生效的“履约保证金”比较恰当。

2 在签完正式合同后，卖家银行开给买家银行的PB，就应该理解为“履约保函”。

回复 #96 xxyun2000 的帖子

:D :D 开个玩笑而已!
觉得你92楼的翻译,用"履约保函"似乎比"履约保证金"更恰当些!
个人观点,仅供参考而已!

回复 #93 globaltrade 的帖子

怎么不见"鼻子慢"或者"鼻子闻"先生对自己的短信做点精彩评论?!:o :o :o

今早起床时俺不小心踩死了两条壁虎，俺心疼的那个啊！咋的！那两尾巴与其头部腰部明显地已经分离了，然而，那两条断了的尾巴兀自还在动！那尾巴还有生命哪……我的怪怪！也够可怜的……
globaltrade日后你声称“履约保函”时，可别忘了你跟谁学的！
你上面链接的PB，猴年马月的？那是一个Easonyi会员发上来的。
这个石油帖，你懂得什么？就考下你，判断柴油是否商检过关，最主要的，是看什么成分？你答得出吗？
看看，你还想胡闹什么？
如果你认为我对开证费都不知道，你连最低的收费标准都不知道，行不？你将一份工行什么行的银行收费标准贴出来，如果你在银行开证，对方收费过高的话，你是不是让银行小姐参看你手提电脑的网络链接？依我就说，你的帖子，中英文错别字连篇，那你还没上过小学哪……
你是别人的手下败将，学了别人的东西不感恩戴德，反而以怨报德，没良心。
L/C激活PB？早几年我就是这么认为的啦，是入此行者的初级阶段，这种操作手法后来让银行打了回去。所以，且不说你没操作过这种业务，你连这种合同草稿都未碰过！
既然山雨续来，既然你再掀波澜，好！既然你对上面链接的这份PB如此感兴趣，那好，我们两个就一起对它（以及xxyun2000 昨晚贴出的上面又一份中英文资料）来翻译、分析，看你还能有几滴墨水！其他会员朋友同意否？大家想看这出好戏吗？

[[i] 本帖最后由 Bizman. 于 2008-4-30 11:16 编辑 [/i]]

你三番四次链接的PB内容原来就是以下这个，现在，请你翻译、分析一下！译得中肯点啊！再分析得准一点啊！

PERFORMANCE BOND
----------------
ISSUER          : <Applicant Bank SWIFT Code> <address>
Input Message Type  : 760 Bank Guarantee
Sent To         : SWIFT :
-------------------------------------------------
27  /Sequence of Total
    1/1
20  /Transaction Reference No
    ?????
23  /Further Identification
    Issue
30  /Date
    YY MM DD
40C /Applicable Rules
    Othr
77C /Details of Guarantee
    PERFORMANCE BOND NUMBER: ?????
    Type of SLC - IRREVOCABLE
    DATE OF ISSUE:
    DATE OF EXPIRATION: DDMMYY AT <beneficiary bank SWIFT>
    APPLICANT :
59  /BENEFICIARY: XXX
    (HEREINAFTER REFERRED TO AS "THE BENEFICIARY")
    AMOUNT : USD XXX/-
    (UNITED STATES DOLLAR XXX ONLY)
    DRAFT - DRAWN AT SIGHT ON <APPLICANT BANK> FOR 100% OF INVOICE value
    DETAILS OF GURANTEE:
With reference to Contract Number XXX (hereinafter referred to as “the Contract”) signed between your firm (“the Buyer”) and XXX (hereinafter referred to as “the Seller”) dated XXX for the supply of XXX amounting to USD XXX(United States Dollars XXX), the Seller will receive from you an advance payment of USD XXX (United States Dollars XXX) being 2% (two percent) of the total Contract value against presentation of a bank guarantee in favour of yourselves.
At the request of the Seller, we, BANK XXX, hereby guarantee to refund to you an amount not exceeding USD XXX (United States Dollars XXX within XXX (XXX) working days after receipt by us of your written and duly signed request for payment and your written confirmation stating that the Seller has failed to deliver all the goods to you in accordance with the terms and conditions of the Contract.
For the purpose of identification, your request for payment and your confirmation hereunder must be presented at the counter of our bank (address: XXX) through your banker confirming that the signatures thereon are binding on your firm.

ALWAYS PROVIDED THAT:
1) Our liability is limited to the sum not exceeding USD XXX(XXX)
2) This guarantee shall mature 60 (sixty) days after the receipt of acceptable method of payment for said contract and expire on XXX (seven days after maturity date).  Any claims hereunder must be received by us subsequent to the maturity date but before the date of expiry when this guarantee will become of no effect whatsoever whether returned to us or not.
3) This guarantee enters into force only after receipt from you of the following documents by us quoting our Letter of Guarantee Number (Attention: Loans Centre) in favour of the Seller without reserve which we shall then advise you.
a. LC Drafts paid at sight in duplicate drawn on issuing bank for 100% of invoice value; and,
b. Beneficiary’s declaration station that the applicant has failed to perform their obligations as per the Contract.  Exception is made if Seller is affected by Force Majeure conditions; and,
c. Confirmed, certified copy of Buyer’s operative Letter of Credit issued to Seller in the amount of total contract value.
This Guarantee shall be governed by and in construction in accordance with the Laws of Hong Kong SAR

国内开出可转让信用证。~~~~~~~

[quote]原帖由 [i]globaltrade[/i] 于 2008-4-30 08:10 发表 [url=http://bbs.fobshanghai.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=14133332&ptid=1095782][img]http://bbs.fobshanghai.com/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
别的都可以删除,这个网址一定要联上来:

这年头假的东西坑人不浅,居然还有人弄份假PB招摇撞骗,希望更多福友擦亮眼睛,不要轻易上当:
[url]http://bbs.fobshanghai.com/thread-591887-1-54.html[/url] [/quote]你活像一个王海啊！愤青啊。如果你一直让网络害了的话，那我在上面贴出的以下这个帖子，也算及时，又让你学到了多少？最起码以后你如果有机会碰到这种大宗业务，跟外商洽谈时也不会像以前那样两股战战了吧？最起码你懂得了交易程序吧！我在本帖付出了一点点劳动，现在就等你对上面PB的劳动了。

1. Buyer forwards its LOI to the Seller.
====买方向卖方发送LOI。

2. Seller presents the FCO to the Buyer.
====卖方向买方提交FCO。

3. Buyer presents its ICPO to the Seller and Bank Letter of Comfort.
====买方向卖方提交ICPO及BCL。
注：Bank Letter of Comfort 应为 Bank Comfort Letter；同时原句语法应稍作调整。

4. Seller presents a confirmation of resource allocation and a draft contract to the Buyer.
====卖方向买方发送资源（货物）分配确认书和合同草稿。

5. The Contract is signed.
====签订合同。

6. Seller’s bank (a TOP-25 World Prime Bank) forwards by SWIFT MT 799 to the Buyer’s bank a
Proof of Product for the annual delivery quantity of the goods specified in the Contract.
====卖方银行（世界一流、顶级25强银行）以SWIFT MT 799方式向买方银行发送合同所示每年所交货物数量的POP。
注：annual 用得不对。每年？这种交易一般情况下最多签一年，一年的数量和资金已够吓人了！
   Term is 5 banking days from signing of the contract.
====时间为签约后5个银行（工作）日。
注：Term 宜为 Time，这样表达得更恰当。

7. Buyer’s Bank (a TOP-25 World Prime Bank) forwards by SWIFT MT 799 to the Seller’s bank a
Proof of Funds.
====买方银行（世界一流、顶级25强银行）以SWIFT MT 799方式向卖方银行发送POF。
   Term is 5 banking days from receipt of Proof of Product.
====条款（应为：TIME 时间）为收到POP后5个银行（工作）日。

8. Seller’s Bank (a TOP-25 World Prime Bank) presents by SWIFT MT 760 to the Buyer’s bank a
Performance   Bond   as a   guarantee of   deliveries   in   the amount of   2%   of   the value   of   a   monthly delivery of the commodity.
====卖方银行（世界一流、顶级25强银行）以SWIFT MT 760方式向买方银行提交/发送履约保函，作为（卖方）交货的保证，其金额为每月所交货物价值之2%。
   Term is 10 banking days from receipt of Proof of Funds.
====条款（时间）为收到POF后10个银行（工作）日。

9.1. Buyer’s Bank (a TOP-25 World Prime Bank) forwards to the Seller’s Bank by SWIFT MT
760 a Bank Instrument.
====买方银行（世界一流、顶级25强银行）以SWIFT MT 760方式向卖方银行发送银行文件（所指一般来说是L/C）。

10. Beginning of deliveries. The first monthly delivery shall be effected within 60 calendar days,
subsequent deliveries to be effected according to the schedule.
====发货之初，首月（首批）交货将在60个自然日内执行，其后之交货依照（合同）排期表履行。

回复 #95 globaltrade 的帖子

大炮打蚊子，不是不可以，只是觉得浪费弹药，但情非得已，就只得启动了。
楼主昨晚新贴出的上面（以下）这份资料，刚看了一两段，我个人就觉得：中文与英文翻译，对接得不够准确，原英文措词也尚需拿捏。那么，准备吧，你我一起动手！翻译、分析。你千万别找借口溜！！！

PERFORMANCE BOND (PB)
履约保证金

1        AFTER BUYER AND SELLER SIGNED THE CONTRACT, THE SELLER’S BANK ISSUE A NON OPERATIVE PERFORMANCE BOND (PB) REPRESENTING THE FIRST SHIPMENT OF 50,000 TONS TO BUYER.
THE PERFORMANCE BONDS IN AMOUNT OF 5%　US$000.000 SHALL BE AUTOMATICALLY OPERATIVE WHEN THE BUYER HAS ISSUED THE L/C AS THE FOLLOW-UP OF THE S/P CONTRACT。
买卖双方签约后，卖方银行先发出首批50,000公吨金额的5%暂不生效履约保证金到买方银行。
为了完成船运,卖方开出000,000美元之未可执行的履约保函给买方银行.依据买卖合同, 买方开出信用证后, 履约保函自动生效。
2         THE FORMAT OF THE PERFORMANCE BOND SHALL BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LATEST UCP THE LATEST VERSION (UNIFORM CUSTOMS AND PRACTICE FOR DOCUMENTARY CREDITS, 1999 REVISION, ICC PUBLICATION NO. THE LATEST VERSION) AS PER “ANNEX C”.
履约保证金的形式应符合最新修改的UCP和2000的1999年见索既付版本（见”附件C”）。

3        IN THE EVENT OF NON-PERFORMANCE BY THE SELLER, THE SELLER’S PB WILL BE CALLED UP BY THE BUYER. IF THE BUYER AGREE TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT GO ON, THE SELLER WILL INSTRUCT HIS BANK TO ISSUE A NEW PB WITHIN A PERIOD OF 48 (FORTY-EIGHT) HOURS HAVING THE SAME TENOR AS THE PREVIOUS ONE. SHOULD THIS BE THE CASE, ALL FUTURE PAYMENTS DUE BY THE BUYER WILL BE SUSPENDED UNTIL SUCH A TIME THAT THE NEW PB HAS BEEN PLACED.
如果卖方没有履行合同, 卖方的履约保证金将被买方收取， 如买方同意继续执行合同, 卖方在48小时内, 通知其银行开出一份同原先一样的履约保证金。在这种情况下, 买方对卖方的一切付款将暂时中止直到新的履约保证金开始生效。


违约
1        SHOULD EITHER PARTY FAIL TO COMPLY WITH ANY OF THEIR OBLIGATIONS TO THE OTHER PARTY RELATED TO THE CONTRACT, THEN THE SUFFERING PARTY WILL HAVE THE OPTION TO DECLARE NON-PERFORMANCE AGAINST THE DEFAULTING PARTY.
如果一方没有按合同对另一方履行义务，另一方有权对违约方提出明示。
2        FAILURE BY EITHER PARTY TO TAKE AGAINST THE OTHER, IN CASE OF THE OTHER PARTY’S NON-COMPLIANCE WITH OBLIGATION OR CONDITIONS SET FOURTH WITH THIS CONTRACT, SHALL NOT OF THE SAME OR OTHER OBLIGATIONS OR CONDITIONS.
如果一方对另一方违约，另一方也没有按照合同条款和义务进行，也同样被视为违约。

3    SELLER WILL ISSUE A PERFORMANCE BOND TO BUYER. THE PB WILL BE CALLED UP AND THE CONTRACT WILL BE CANCELLED BY THE BUYER IF THE SELLER HAS FAILED TO PROVIDE POP OR DULY MADE COPIES OF THE SHIPPING DOCUMENTS (INCLUDING B/L, COMMERCIAL INVOICE, CERTIFICATE OF ORIGIN, CERTIFICATE OF QUANLITI & QUANTITY INSPECTION ISSUED BY SGS), OR NO DELIVERY IS MADE WITHIN THE SPECIFIED TIME AS PER THE CONTRACT FOR WHATEVER REASONS, EXCEPT THE FORCE MAJEURE EVENT.
卖方银行将出具的暂不生效履约保函到买方银行，如果卖方不能按合同规定时间提供POP档或装船档（海运提单、商业发票、产地证、装载港SGS质量和数量检验证明）副本、或不能按规定时间交货，不论什么原因（除不可抗力外），买方有权没收卖方履约的保证金，并取消该合同。

都是强人,望e心叹，还是生意为主吧，合约当然越缜密越好，如果有人因合约被骗被耍，那也是自己的事情，楼上的朋友们就不要吵吵了

回复 #104 zhouyb81 的帖子

说得对哦，我见过油商卖油到欧洲的合同，根本没这么复杂。


其实对于有实力有供油能力还很诚信的油商，不管你买家要求的合同如何定得细致，卖家的基本思路是：

1 鉴定买家的资金实力；
2 签定合同；
3 向卖家银行发出PB，不管你是2%、5%还是更高，都无所谓；
4 买家开出不可撤消信用证（我这卖家要求用银行保函，就是为防止买家耍赖）；
5 卖家凭装卸货港SGS检验证明、提单，那么买家必须付款，如买家如拒付，那么买家银行无条件兑现银行保函给卖家付款；
6 如果对油品质量有争议，那么到伦敦仲裁法院打官司。

[quote]原帖由 [i]xxyun2000[/i] 于 2008-4-30 12:34 发表 [url=http://bbs.fobshanghai.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=14145445&ptid=1095782][img]http://bbs.fobshanghai.com/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]3 向[color=Red][size=4][b]卖[/b][/size][/color]家银行发出PB，不管你是2%、5%还是更高，都无所谓；[/quote]买………………

如果能出5%的PB，那是对买家更多的保障，但一般来说，卖家不会同意，其银行开出的PB大都是合同金额的2%。

近来学习的
这......
有点难度!
从没接触过这么大的交易
:L

很久以前俺曾经有过一次教训：接触大宗业务之初，签过每月500万美元一船货的合同，简直是暴利，当时还是以一个中间商的角色签的，一些条款如：买方银行先开暂不生效的L/C，然后让卖方银行的PB去激活这个L/C，双方激活来激活去的……
在国外签约时，卖家还特意地铺了红地毯，敲锣打鼓，拍照留念，搞得若在其事，皆大欢喜……
后来，这份沉甸甸的合同，至今仍锁在抽屉里———银行拒绝受理这种L/C，合同执行不了……

呵呵,"愤青"都出来啦!;P ;P ;P 你大概是"愤中"吧?奔四的人还这副德行?

我只想看看你对骚扰短信有何解释?! 别扯那些没用的!

[quote]原帖由 [i]Bizman.[/i] 于 2008-4-30 11:35 AM 发表 [url=http://bbs.fobshanghai.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=14143600&ptid=1095782][img]http://bbs.fobshanghai.com/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
[u]你活像一个王海啊！愤青啊[/u]。如果你一直让网络害了的话，那我在上面贴出的以下这个帖子，也算及时，又让你学到了多少？最起码以后你如果有机会碰到这种大宗业务，跟外商洽谈时也不会像以前那样两股战战了吧？最起 ... [/quote]

[[i] 本帖最后由 globaltrade 于 2008-4-30 13:30 编辑 [/i]]

回复 #108 Bizman. 的帖子

斑竹清理帖子,能成为你短信骚扰的借口吗?
鼻子慢或者是鼻子闻先生?!;P ;P ;P

[quote]原帖由 [i]Bizman.[/i] 于 2008-4-30 11:14 AM 发表 [url=http://bbs.fobshanghai.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=14142503&ptid=1095782][img]http://bbs.fobshanghai.com/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
今早起床时俺不小心踩死了两条壁虎，俺心疼的那个啊！咋的！那两尾巴与其头部腰部明显地已经分离了，然而，那两条断了的尾巴兀自还在动！那尾巴还有生命哪……我的怪怪！也够可怜的……
globaltrade日后你声称 ... [/quote]
;P ;P ;P ;P 起床时候鼻子坏啦?怎么没闻出来有壁虎啊?!

[quote]原帖由 [i]globaltrade[/i] 于 2008-4-30 13:25 发表 [url=http://bbs.fobshanghai.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=14147405&ptid=1095782][img]http://bbs.fobshanghai.com/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
呵呵,"愤青"都出来啦!;P ;P ;P 你大概是"愤中"吧?奔四的人还这副德行?
我只想看看你对骚扰短信有和解释?!;P ;P ;P 别扯那些没用的! [/quote]谁骚拢谁？两个帖子里体现得清清楚楚！奔四？奔驰呢！在这个外贸外语论坛谈这些年龄有什么意思？我年刚弱冠，或者我年过花甲了呢！怎么样？你知道吗？
如果说，帖子外面的短信你发上来，倒没看到上面是什么骚扰，看你写的短信，你又在诋毁别人“闻”？你身体平时的唯一职能：嗅觉，就别在这里吹啦！
你千万别在生活犯了错事，让人教训了，还跑到这个论坛上喊冤呢！这里不是道德干预中心。
我觉得还是你别扯上面这些才对，你既然在帖子里吹嘘自己，那么，请通过上面需要你付出的劳动来证明你的水平和价值，莫不是这成了想开溜不翻译不分析的美好理由？

回复 #111 globaltrade 的帖子

嘴把式，动手翻译、分析吧，快做点什么出来，让大家找一找你跟以前的低水平会有什么不同？
不要偏离本帖的业务主题！请请！

[quote]原帖由 [i]Bizman.[/i] 于 2008-4-30 01:36 PM 发表 [url=http://bbs.fobshanghai.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=14147918&ptid=1095782][img]http://bbs.fobshanghai.com/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
谁骚拢谁？两个帖子里体现得清清楚楚！奔四？奔驰呢！在这个外贸外语论坛谈这些年龄有什么意思？我年刚弱冠，或者我年过花甲了呢！怎么样？你知道吗？
如果说，帖子外面的短信你发上来，倒没看到上面是什么骚扰 ... [/quote]

;P ;P ;P 自做多情,谁对你年龄赶兴趣?!

只想看看:鼻子慢先生或者鼻子闻先生,如何用生花妙笔美化自己的骚扰行为?!:lol :lol :lol

等各位冷静下来,愿意就事论事探讨业务的时候,此帖再重新开.

本主题由 milkrivernj 于 2008-5-4 15:40 打开  
激烈和激情的碰撞才会产生思想的火花
fob更需要这种富有营养和争议的帖子呢

坐下来慢慢看高手分析，学习学习:lol

偶来学习啦~··········Bizman.人捏、？？？

[quote]原帖由 [i]edu321[/i] 于 2008-5-4 16:37 发表 [url=http://bbs.fobshanghai.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=14215339&ptid=1095782][img]http://bbs.fobshanghai.com/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
本主题由 milkrivernj 于 2008-5-4 15:40 打开  
激烈和激情的碰撞才会产生思想的火花
fob更需要这种富有营养和争议的帖子呢

坐下来慢慢看高手分析，学习学习:lol [/quote]
看眼儿的吧:lol :lol

回复 #117 jaylove183 的帖子

多谢这位朋友一直在抬举！俺也不是时常在线的。

这里面如果4人一起合作，那将是外贸四天王！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！:lol